1 00:00:05,110 --> 00:00:03,429 so with the third annual international 2 00:00:06,710 --> 00:00:05,120 space station research and development 3 00:00:08,310 --> 00:00:06,720 conference four awards were given out 4 00:00:11,509 --> 00:00:08,320 for the most compelling international 5 00:00:13,110 --> 00:00:11,519 space station science projects of 2013. 6 00:00:14,709 --> 00:00:13,120 here to tell us more is the chief 7 00:00:16,070 --> 00:00:14,719 program scientist for nasa's 8 00:00:17,830 --> 00:00:16,080 international space station program 9 00:00:19,750 --> 00:00:17,840 julie robinson now the first one i want 10 00:00:22,150 --> 00:00:19,760 to talk about went to carl carruthers of 11 00:00:23,990 --> 00:00:22,160 nanoracks llc for his work and 12 00:00:26,310 --> 00:00:24,000 nanorack's work on protein crystal 13 00:00:28,070 --> 00:00:26,320 growth start off protein crystals 14 00:00:30,470 --> 00:00:28,080 huge huge 15 00:00:32,229 --> 00:00:30,480 experiment for microgravity research on 16 00:00:34,310 --> 00:00:32,239 the station first off give us a little 17 00:00:35,750 --> 00:00:34,320 more background about why those are such 18 00:00:37,910 --> 00:00:35,760 a big deal 19 00:00:40,069 --> 00:00:37,920 so people are interested in growing 20 00:00:41,910 --> 00:00:40,079 crystals on the space station because 21 00:00:45,270 --> 00:00:41,920 those crystals without having 22 00:00:47,270 --> 00:00:45,280 sedimentation and convection flow 23 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:47,280 moving through the system they 24 00:00:51,029 --> 00:00:48,960 crystallize more slowly and there's time 25 00:00:53,110 --> 00:00:51,039 for all the molecules to line up and get 26 00:00:54,389 --> 00:00:53,120 a more perfectly structured crystal now 27 00:00:55,910 --> 00:00:54,399 of course that depends on if you get the 28 00:00:59,029 --> 00:00:55,920 conditions right 29 00:01:01,830 --> 00:00:59,039 and that's what is so innovative about 30 00:01:04,149 --> 00:01:01,840 carruther's work with nanoracks so what 31 00:01:07,270 --> 00:01:04,159 nanoracks did they are a commercial 32 00:01:09,910 --> 00:01:07,280 company they are using or facilitating 33 00:01:11,990 --> 00:01:09,920 researchers to use the iss 34 00:01:13,670 --> 00:01:12,000 hundreds of researchers they worked with 35 00:01:16,390 --> 00:01:13,680 and what they did is they worked with 36 00:01:17,749 --> 00:01:16,400 carruthers to develop 37 00:01:20,390 --> 00:01:17,759 some something we sometimes call a 38 00:01:22,390 --> 00:01:20,400 crystal hotel it's a on the ground piece 39 00:01:24,469 --> 00:01:22,400 of software that they adapted for use in 40 00:01:26,950 --> 00:01:24,479 space flight in this nanorack system so 41 00:01:29,749 --> 00:01:26,960 it's very low cost and the thing that's 42 00:01:31,510 --> 00:01:29,759 great about it is it supports 43 00:01:33,270 --> 00:01:31,520 thousands of different experiment 44 00:01:34,870 --> 00:01:33,280 conditions all at the same time so 45 00:01:37,030 --> 00:01:34,880 instead of trying to get it perfectly 46 00:01:38,469 --> 00:01:37,040 right on earth you can screen with a lot 47 00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:38,479 of different conditions and run 48 00:01:42,230 --> 00:01:40,799 thousands of samples and get a good 49 00:01:43,990 --> 00:01:42,240 quality crystal and what carruthers 50 00:01:46,630 --> 00:01:44,000 showed is from the very first flight of 51 00:01:48,710 --> 00:01:46,640 this new crystal system that he got good 52 00:01:50,149 --> 00:01:48,720 research results okay and what are some 53 00:01:51,990 --> 00:01:50,159 of the benefits that some of the 54 00:01:54,469 --> 00:01:52,000 experiments taking advantage of this new 55 00:01:55,590 --> 00:01:54,479 system could potentially lead to so 56 00:01:57,270 --> 00:01:55,600 there are 57 00:01:59,350 --> 00:01:57,280 thousands of proteins in the world where 58 00:02:02,310 --> 00:01:59,360 we've identified that that protein is 59 00:02:04,630 --> 00:02:02,320 important in a disease of some sort but 60 00:02:06,950 --> 00:02:04,640 we don't know what the protein looks 61 00:02:09,190 --> 00:02:06,960 like structurally if you know the shape 62 00:02:11,670 --> 00:02:09,200 of the protein you might be able to 63 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:11,680 design a drug to interfere with it or 64 00:02:15,670 --> 00:02:13,680 assist it or do something else if you 65 00:02:17,510 --> 00:02:15,680 know that protein matters you've got to 66 00:02:19,750 --> 00:02:17,520 have the shape or that structure and so 67 00:02:22,710 --> 00:02:19,760 in getting a good crystal then you can 68 00:02:24,710 --> 00:02:22,720 use either x-ray crystallography or 69 00:02:26,869 --> 00:02:24,720 other kinds of neutron techniques to get 70 00:02:29,670 --> 00:02:26,879 the structure of the protein there's a 71 00:02:31,589 --> 00:02:29,680 center for biomolecular structure at the 72 00:02:33,670 --> 00:02:31,599 national institutes of health that has a 73 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:33,680 list of all the desirable proteins that 74 00:02:38,470 --> 00:02:35,599 we don't have structures for yet 75 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:38,480 and then also pharmaceutical companies 76 00:02:41,509 --> 00:02:40,000 many of whom are working on different 77 00:02:43,270 --> 00:02:41,519 drug development pathways will have 78 00:02:45,350 --> 00:02:43,280 certain molecules that they want to 79 00:02:47,350 --> 00:02:45,360 understand and so this nanoracks 80 00:02:49,030 --> 00:02:47,360 innovation provides the opportunity for 81 00:02:50,790 --> 00:02:49,040 companies like that to very quickly try 82 00:02:52,550 --> 00:02:50,800 something on the space station and see 83 00:02:54,550 --> 00:02:52,560 if that would be an opportunity for them 84 00:02:56,710 --> 00:02:54,560 to make an advance was there any other 85 00:02:59,030 --> 00:02:56,720 aspect of nanorack's 86 00:03:01,190 --> 00:02:59,040 new initiative that led you guys to give 87 00:03:02,949 --> 00:03:01,200 them this award 88 00:03:04,790 --> 00:03:02,959 you know what we were excited about was 89 00:03:06,550 --> 00:03:04,800 just the cost effectiveness and the 90 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:06,560 number of samples that you could get and 91 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:09,760 the fact that they proved that that 92 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:11,200 a number of those crystals really were 93 00:03:15,110 --> 00:03:13,040 of very good quality so it's an 94 00:03:16,550 --> 00:03:15,120 encouraging technological improvement 95 00:03:18,390 --> 00:03:16,560 there are other 96 00:03:20,630 --> 00:03:18,400 protein crystal growth studies flying 97 00:03:22,470 --> 00:03:20,640 this year that will also help us to 98 00:03:24,149 --> 00:03:22,480 finally answer that question can you 99 00:03:25,350 --> 00:03:24,159 really get better proteins in space and 100 00:03:27,910 --> 00:03:25,360 so we'll be looking that pretty 101 00:03:29,990 --> 00:03:27,920 comprehensively and then let's move on 102 00:03:32,630 --> 00:03:30,000 to our next one and this award went to 103 00:03:34,869 --> 00:03:32,640 nabaroon chakraborty with the u.s army 104 00:03:37,190 --> 00:03:34,879 center for environmental health research 105 00:03:39,110 --> 00:03:37,200 and it was his award was for research 106 00:03:41,430 --> 00:03:39,120 being done into how microgravity affects 107 00:03:43,030 --> 00:03:41,440 host immune systems now first off again 108 00:03:44,789 --> 00:03:43,040 give me a little bit more background on 109 00:03:46,470 --> 00:03:44,799 this project and what led you guys to 110 00:03:49,030 --> 00:03:46,480 get this award and why it was so 111 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:49,040 compelling yeah so dr 112 00:03:53,670 --> 00:03:51,360 chakraborty's research over the years 113 00:03:55,429 --> 00:03:53,680 has used space flight several times and 114 00:03:57,830 --> 00:03:55,439 it's really been focused on 115 00:04:00,070 --> 00:03:57,840 understanding the processes of wound 116 00:04:01,990 --> 00:04:00,080 healing at the cellular level you know 117 00:04:03,990 --> 00:04:02,000 when you have a cut in your skin those 118 00:04:05,670 --> 00:04:04,000 epidermal cells they have to have their 119 00:04:07,429 --> 00:04:05,680 stem cells there that have to make new 120 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:07,439 skin to cover it back over and that's 121 00:04:10,869 --> 00:04:09,120 what wound healing is 122 00:04:12,630 --> 00:04:10,879 and um 123 00:04:14,470 --> 00:04:12,640 i you know it's it's a very important 124 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:14,480 process we kind of take it for granted 125 00:04:17,509 --> 00:04:15,920 you know you cut yourself and you put a 126 00:04:19,749 --> 00:04:17,519 band-aid on it and then it's magically 127 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:19,759 better in a couple weeks i learned 128 00:04:24,150 --> 00:04:22,160 recently in a personal level why not to 129 00:04:25,830 --> 00:04:24,160 take that for granted because 130 00:04:27,510 --> 00:04:25,840 we have a i have a family member that 131 00:04:29,590 --> 00:04:27,520 has diabetes and one of the things that 132 00:04:32,310 --> 00:04:29,600 happens in diabetics sometimes is they 133 00:04:35,030 --> 00:04:32,320 get poor circulation in their feet and 134 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:35,040 then wounds don't heal and so she got a 135 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:37,120 cut on her foot that couldn't heal and 136 00:04:40,310 --> 00:04:38,880 couldn't heal and she had to get special 137 00:04:41,110 --> 00:04:40,320 medical attention and all of those 138 00:04:41,990 --> 00:04:41,120 things 139 00:04:43,830 --> 00:04:42,000 so 140 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:43,840 one of the in understanding what are the 141 00:04:48,310 --> 00:04:45,919 factors that turn on these stem cells 142 00:04:49,990 --> 00:04:48,320 that lead to that interaction how is the 143 00:04:51,670 --> 00:04:50,000 immune system part of that right because 144 00:04:53,030 --> 00:04:51,680 the immune system is going there sending 145 00:04:55,030 --> 00:04:53,040 white blood cells to make sure the 146 00:04:56,550 --> 00:04:55,040 infection doesn't occur how does that 147 00:04:58,550 --> 00:04:56,560 whole system in the body work and that 148 00:05:00,150 --> 00:04:58,560 was the subject of dr chakraborty's 149 00:05:02,230 --> 00:05:00,160 research okay and i know that there are 150 00:05:04,870 --> 00:05:02,240 some challenges doing similar research 151 00:05:07,350 --> 00:05:04,880 here down on the earth in the presence 152 00:05:09,430 --> 00:05:07,360 of gravity why is the work being done in 153 00:05:11,909 --> 00:05:09,440 orbit in microgravity on the station of 154 00:05:13,590 --> 00:05:11,919 particular importance yeah so it's 155 00:05:15,670 --> 00:05:13,600 interesting that microgravity might be a 156 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:15,680 good model for wound healing what's been 157 00:05:19,510 --> 00:05:17,520 found so far is that wound healing seems 158 00:05:21,670 --> 00:05:19,520 to be slowed in microgravity and so you 159 00:05:23,990 --> 00:05:21,680 can use that to then see 160 00:05:26,629 --> 00:05:24,000 if you can pump up the process speed it 161 00:05:28,070 --> 00:05:26,639 up even in a cell culture if you have if 162 00:05:30,150 --> 00:05:28,080 you know what you would expect that 163 00:05:32,550 --> 00:05:30,160 culture to do on earth and you can make 164 00:05:34,070 --> 00:05:32,560 it perform wound healing like functions 165 00:05:35,029 --> 00:05:34,080 more quickly in space that's a good 166 00:05:36,870 --> 00:05:35,039 model 167 00:05:38,629 --> 00:05:36,880 okay and what's some of the work that 168 00:05:41,510 --> 00:05:38,639 might be coming out in the future as a 169 00:05:43,430 --> 00:05:41,520 result of dr chakraborty's research 170 00:05:45,749 --> 00:05:43,440 experiment uh well there is future 171 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:45,759 research that we're expecting that is 172 00:05:49,749 --> 00:05:48,080 using more complex model organisms to 173 00:05:51,430 --> 00:05:49,759 understand wound healing better we also 174 00:05:52,469 --> 00:05:51,440 expect to see more cell biology studies 175 00:05:54,790 --> 00:05:52,479 in the future 176 00:05:56,150 --> 00:05:54,800 now we're going to move on to another 177 00:05:58,469 --> 00:05:56,160 research study that was looking at the 178 00:06:00,550 --> 00:05:58,479 human body and how it works in space it 179 00:06:02,150 --> 00:06:00,560 was worked on integrated cardiovascular 180 00:06:03,350 --> 00:06:02,160 so again real quick give us a quick 181 00:06:05,990 --> 00:06:03,360 background on what integrated 182 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:06,000 cardiovascular or icv is that pretty 183 00:06:09,590 --> 00:06:08,160 large team did almost three years of 184 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:09,600 research on the international space 185 00:06:13,029 --> 00:06:11,440 station looking at the function of the 186 00:06:15,830 --> 00:06:13,039 human heart 187 00:06:17,189 --> 00:06:15,840 we know that just based on the fitness 188 00:06:18,550 --> 00:06:17,199 levels of astronauts we knew their 189 00:06:20,469 --> 00:06:18,560 hearts were changing when they went into 190 00:06:23,350 --> 00:06:20,479 space but this was the first time we'd 191 00:06:25,590 --> 00:06:23,360 really looked at both the physical shape 192 00:06:27,590 --> 00:06:25,600 and structure of the heart as well as at 193 00:06:29,430 --> 00:06:27,600 its performance the other thing we knew 194 00:06:32,150 --> 00:06:29,440 before this study began is we knew there 195 00:06:34,390 --> 00:06:32,160 had been a couple observations of kind 196 00:06:36,870 --> 00:06:34,400 of scary arrhythmias and so we were 197 00:06:38,070 --> 00:06:36,880 concerned that if that was normal if 198 00:06:39,350 --> 00:06:38,080 that was something that happened to a 199 00:06:41,110 --> 00:06:39,360 lot of astronauts that could be a 200 00:06:44,309 --> 00:06:41,120 significant risk for spaceflight or 201 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:44,319 significant risk for spacewalks as well 202 00:06:47,350 --> 00:06:46,240 and we didn't have the kinds of 203 00:06:49,270 --> 00:06:47,360 arrhythmias we needed pretty 204 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:49,280 sophisticated halter monitors to get 205 00:06:52,950 --> 00:06:50,720 those measurements so all of that was 206 00:06:54,629 --> 00:06:52,960 wrapped up together in a study called 207 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:54,639 integrated cardiovascular now you see 208 00:06:58,390 --> 00:06:56,400 why it's integrated 209 00:07:00,150 --> 00:06:58,400 and it took about 210 00:07:02,390 --> 00:07:00,160 there were 13 subjects 211 00:07:04,629 --> 00:07:02,400 on the iss that took over two years to 212 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:04,639 get all of those subjects accumulated 213 00:07:07,749 --> 00:07:06,160 together and the results are just 214 00:07:09,110 --> 00:07:07,759 starting now to come out and they were 215 00:07:11,749 --> 00:07:09,120 really exciting and so that's why this 216 00:07:13,270 --> 00:07:11,759 team was selected for the award okay and 217 00:07:15,029 --> 00:07:13,280 what are some of those exciting results 218 00:07:17,029 --> 00:07:15,039 we're seeing i know we've learned a lot 219 00:07:18,629 --> 00:07:17,039 more about the mechanism of the heart 220 00:07:19,909 --> 00:07:18,639 atrophying or kind of weakening in 221 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:19,919 microgravity what are some of the 222 00:07:23,909 --> 00:07:21,919 results that we found yeah so one of the 223 00:07:25,510 --> 00:07:23,919 things that that the investigators saw 224 00:07:27,189 --> 00:07:25,520 is of course the heart got smaller 225 00:07:28,950 --> 00:07:27,199 because it wasn't working very hard you 226 00:07:30,870 --> 00:07:28,960 know on earth your heart really has to 227 00:07:32,070 --> 00:07:30,880 work to pump that blood out of your legs 228 00:07:34,230 --> 00:07:32,080 and keep it up in your head where your 229 00:07:36,070 --> 00:07:34,240 brain gets it in space everything's 230 00:07:37,510 --> 00:07:36,080 floating around kind of equally and so 231 00:07:39,749 --> 00:07:37,520 it's that's not such a problem and so 232 00:07:41,909 --> 00:07:39,759 that wasn't a surprising result i was a 233 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:41,919 little more surprised to hear that the 234 00:07:46,390 --> 00:07:44,400 heart becomes more spherically shaped as 235 00:07:47,909 --> 00:07:46,400 it shrinks so this 236 00:07:50,550 --> 00:07:47,919 and even the investigators even showed a 237 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:50,560 picture of the grinch um in in their 238 00:07:55,270 --> 00:07:52,560 charts because it kind of helps capture 239 00:07:57,589 --> 00:07:55,280 that it's smaller more and more round as 240 00:07:58,790 --> 00:07:57,599 what the structural changes are but they 241 00:08:01,350 --> 00:07:58,800 also found when the crew members 242 00:08:03,510 --> 00:08:01,360 returned to earth it responded very 243 00:08:05,909 --> 00:08:03,520 rapidly at rebuilding that mass when it 244 00:08:07,749 --> 00:08:05,919 was necessary so this was this is 245 00:08:10,150 --> 00:08:07,759 healthy when you think about it a muscle 246 00:08:11,589 --> 00:08:10,160 that's not used gets smaller get 247 00:08:13,110 --> 00:08:11,599 atrophies a little bit when you start 248 00:08:15,189 --> 00:08:13,120 using that muscle again you get back in 249 00:08:17,589 --> 00:08:15,199 shape and it grows again and so so that 250 00:08:19,589 --> 00:08:17,599 really was quite comforting that um when 251 00:08:21,350 --> 00:08:19,599 a crew member say gets done with a mars 252 00:08:22,629 --> 00:08:21,360 transit their heart may have shrunk a 253 00:08:25,029 --> 00:08:22,639 little bit but when they start doing 254 00:08:27,029 --> 00:08:25,039 more rigorous uh spacewalks out on the 255 00:08:28,390 --> 00:08:27,039 mars surface in a 300 pound pack their 256 00:08:30,150 --> 00:08:28,400 heart's going to respond to that just 257 00:08:31,909 --> 00:08:30,160 give them a few days to train into it 258 00:08:33,430 --> 00:08:31,919 don't make them do it all the first day 259 00:08:35,190 --> 00:08:33,440 and and their heart will recover as a 260 00:08:37,110 --> 00:08:35,200 good muscle 261 00:08:39,509 --> 00:08:37,120 the other thing that was really 262 00:08:40,709 --> 00:08:39,519 important from the study was the data on 263 00:08:43,750 --> 00:08:40,719 arrhythmias 264 00:08:45,670 --> 00:08:43,760 and uh what what they found was that if 265 00:08:47,910 --> 00:08:45,680 crew members tended to skip a beat here 266 00:08:49,829 --> 00:08:47,920 or there on earth they tended to skip a 267 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:49,839 beat here or there in space so there 268 00:08:53,190 --> 00:08:51,360 wasn't a huge difference there wasn't a 269 00:08:55,269 --> 00:08:53,200 difference and so that makes us really 270 00:08:56,230 --> 00:08:55,279 comfortable because that lets us know 271 00:08:58,070 --> 00:08:56,240 that 272 00:08:59,509 --> 00:08:58,080 whatever we're seeing in the regular 273 00:09:01,110 --> 00:08:59,519 health monitoring of crew members on 274 00:09:03,430 --> 00:09:01,120 earth is what it's going to be 275 00:09:05,509 --> 00:09:03,440 the thing that surprised me most 276 00:09:07,269 --> 00:09:05,519 in the charts that that 277 00:09:08,550 --> 00:09:07,279 that were presented were some examples 278 00:09:09,750 --> 00:09:08,560 of the benefits back here on earth 279 00:09:11,670 --> 00:09:09,760 because this was a study that was 280 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:11,680 selected completely for exploration 281 00:09:13,910 --> 00:09:13,200 purposes 282 00:09:16,389 --> 00:09:13,920 but 283 00:09:18,310 --> 00:09:16,399 the data that they got 284 00:09:20,230 --> 00:09:18,320 is they applied then to a set of 285 00:09:22,230 --> 00:09:20,240 patients who have a really rare 286 00:09:24,310 --> 00:09:22,240 abnormality these are patients who have 287 00:09:26,070 --> 00:09:24,320 been 288 00:09:27,829 --> 00:09:26,080 star athletes really significant 289 00:09:29,829 --> 00:09:27,839 athletes they showed examples of ballet 290 00:09:31,509 --> 00:09:29,839 dancers marathon runners people who have 291 00:09:33,750 --> 00:09:31,519 been trained up to a really high level 292 00:09:36,070 --> 00:09:33,760 of fitness and occasionally when those 293 00:09:38,230 --> 00:09:36,080 people retire from their sport their 294 00:09:40,150 --> 00:09:38,240 heart atrophy significantly gets really 295 00:09:42,389 --> 00:09:40,160 really small and they become almost 296 00:09:43,269 --> 00:09:42,399 debilitated unable to 297 00:09:45,990 --> 00:09:43,279 walk 298 00:09:49,829 --> 00:09:46,000 sit up he gave an example of a ballet 299 00:09:51,829 --> 00:09:49,839 dancer who after she stopped dancing was 300 00:09:53,350 --> 00:09:51,839 bound to a wheelchair couldn't even sit 301 00:09:54,790 --> 00:09:53,360 up without passing out and getting 302 00:09:56,870 --> 00:09:54,800 really dizzy and things like that 303 00:09:59,110 --> 00:09:56,880 because her heart it's like it 304 00:10:00,630 --> 00:09:59,120 undercompen overcompensated on shrinking 305 00:10:02,790 --> 00:10:00,640 down or something like that and not 306 00:10:05,350 --> 00:10:02,800 having those rigorous activities it's 307 00:10:06,630 --> 00:10:05,360 incredibly rare but but he said you know 308 00:10:08,230 --> 00:10:06,640 there are numerous patients around the 309 00:10:10,069 --> 00:10:08,240 country that are suffering from that and 310 00:10:12,310 --> 00:10:10,079 what they were able to do was use the 311 00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:12,320 model that they built for the astronauts 312 00:10:16,389 --> 00:10:13,839 heart recovery 313 00:10:17,670 --> 00:10:16,399 and realized that the exercise 314 00:10:19,590 --> 00:10:17,680 techniques that we're using to help 315 00:10:21,030 --> 00:10:19,600 astronauts recover and grow their heart 316 00:10:23,110 --> 00:10:21,040 volume back up might work for these 317 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:23,120 patients and they had great success all 318 00:10:27,350 --> 00:10:24,800 right well let's move on to our last one 319 00:10:29,030 --> 00:10:27,360 our fourth compelling science result and 320 00:10:31,750 --> 00:10:29,040 this went to matthew lynch procter 321 00:10:33,670 --> 00:10:31,760 gamble and this my personal favorite as 322 00:10:37,030 --> 00:10:33,680 always colloids advanced colloids 323 00:10:39,190 --> 00:10:37,040 experiment which has a huge huge impact 324 00:10:41,910 --> 00:10:39,200 on consumer products right now first off 325 00:10:43,590 --> 00:10:41,920 what are colloids and how 326 00:10:45,269 --> 00:10:43,600 how do they have such a huge impact in 327 00:10:47,750 --> 00:10:45,279 you know everyday household products 328 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:47,760 yeah so colloids sound high tech but 329 00:10:52,710 --> 00:10:49,920 what they really are is any kind of a 330 00:10:55,430 --> 00:10:52,720 solid mixed in a liquid matrix and so we 331 00:10:57,509 --> 00:10:55,440 use them constantly 332 00:10:59,590 --> 00:10:57,519 detergents paints 333 00:11:01,990 --> 00:10:59,600 fabric softener 334 00:11:03,750 --> 00:11:02,000 liquid medicines are often 335 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:03,760 a colloid where you've got some kind of 336 00:11:07,910 --> 00:11:05,760 maybe a gel substance mixed in a liquid 337 00:11:09,350 --> 00:11:07,920 matrix and so they're all over in our 338 00:11:11,509 --> 00:11:09,360 lives in fact 339 00:11:13,110 --> 00:11:11,519 procter gamble 340 00:11:15,509 --> 00:11:13,120 which is the company that has partnered 341 00:11:17,509 --> 00:11:15,519 with nasa in this particular research 342 00:11:20,310 --> 00:11:17,519 they have estimated that five million 343 00:11:22,790 --> 00:11:20,320 people touch their products every day or 344 00:11:24,870 --> 00:11:22,800 sorry five billion people so 345 00:11:27,110 --> 00:11:24,880 almost half the world touch their 346 00:11:28,949 --> 00:11:27,120 products some in some way every day some 347 00:11:30,069 --> 00:11:28,959 kind of product now i'm trying to get my 348 00:11:31,990 --> 00:11:30,079 head around that because that seems like 349 00:11:33,670 --> 00:11:32,000 a big number but that's what their 350 00:11:35,350 --> 00:11:33,680 marketing you know their marketing 351 00:11:37,190 --> 00:11:35,360 estimates are and when you think about 352 00:11:38,870 --> 00:11:37,200 how ubiquitous all the different 353 00:11:39,910 --> 00:11:38,880 products you know how many people wash 354 00:11:41,590 --> 00:11:39,920 clothes 355 00:11:42,470 --> 00:11:41,600 in the world every day and how many 356 00:11:44,150 --> 00:11:42,480 people 357 00:11:47,190 --> 00:11:44,160 do those different kinds of things so 358 00:11:49,110 --> 00:11:47,200 it's it's possible and so what dr lynch 359 00:11:51,269 --> 00:11:49,120 who's a research scientist with procter 360 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:51,279 gamble has been doing for a number of 361 00:11:55,990 --> 00:11:53,200 years on the space station 362 00:11:58,230 --> 00:11:56,000 is using the space as a model for 363 00:12:00,470 --> 00:11:58,240 colloid separation and the reason he can 364 00:12:02,150 --> 00:12:00,480 study things there and not on the ground 365 00:12:03,829 --> 00:12:02,160 is because the colloids don't separate 366 00:12:05,509 --> 00:12:03,839 out and so you can get really simple 367 00:12:06,870 --> 00:12:05,519 mathematics that you can't do on the 368 00:12:08,550 --> 00:12:06,880 ground once you understand that 369 00:12:10,550 --> 00:12:08,560 mathematics you can put things back on 370 00:12:12,150 --> 00:12:10,560 the ground and model better ways to keep 371 00:12:14,310 --> 00:12:12,160 those colloids mixed 372 00:12:16,550 --> 00:12:14,320 and you know it's nice to have your 373 00:12:17,750 --> 00:12:16,560 say your fabric softener not separate 374 00:12:19,110 --> 00:12:17,760 so that when you put in your clothes you 375 00:12:20,629 --> 00:12:19,120 get the right amount but it could be 376 00:12:23,269 --> 00:12:20,639 critical even though this isn't a 377 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:23,279 procter gamble product the application 378 00:12:27,350 --> 00:12:25,600 to something like a cough medicine where 379 00:12:30,389 --> 00:12:27,360 getting the wrong dose could really be 380 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:30,399 harmful is is important and so it's it's 381 00:12:34,470 --> 00:12:32,480 exciting to see that work you know this 382 00:12:36,069 --> 00:12:34,480 fundamental physical measurements of 383 00:12:38,310 --> 00:12:36,079 things modeling of things actually have 384 00:12:39,670 --> 00:12:38,320 these applications in our daily lives 385 00:12:41,110 --> 00:12:39,680 and just 386 00:12:42,629 --> 00:12:41,120 real quick just some of the knowledge 387 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:42,639 that we've gained from this and is it 388 00:12:46,470 --> 00:12:44,800 already being implemented you say we're 389 00:12:48,870 --> 00:12:46,480 finding these things out on such a small 390 00:12:51,350 --> 00:12:48,880 level what besides just shelf life will 391 00:12:53,110 --> 00:12:51,360 this have an impact so dr lynch reported 392 00:12:55,670 --> 00:12:53,120 it has already affected the formulation 393 00:12:56,790 --> 00:12:55,680 of a number of different products um the 394 00:12:58,470 --> 00:12:56,800 work that they've done on the space 395 00:13:00,389 --> 00:12:58,480 station to date and that he's 396 00:13:01,430 --> 00:13:00,399 anticipating some of his new results 397 00:13:03,030 --> 00:13:01,440 will be 398 00:13:05,590 --> 00:13:03,040 in consumer products in the very near 399 00:13:07,110 --> 00:13:05,600 future so julie aside from these four 400 00:13:09,430 --> 00:13:07,120 compelling research awards that got 401 00:13:11,509 --> 00:13:09,440 handed out at the r d conference sam 402 00:13:13,670 --> 00:13:11,519 ting who does all the work with the 403 00:13:15,750 --> 00:13:13,680 alpha magnetic spectrometer gave a 404 00:13:17,590 --> 00:13:15,760 presentation and you found that 405 00:13:19,350 --> 00:13:17,600 particularly compelling also why don't 406 00:13:21,110 --> 00:13:19,360 you tell us a little bit about what what 407 00:13:23,030 --> 00:13:21,120 happens whenever a nobel prize winner 408 00:13:23,750 --> 00:13:23,040 comes and presents at a conference it's 409 00:13:26,230 --> 00:13:23,760 it's 410 00:13:27,910 --> 00:13:26,240 usually by definition a big deal 411 00:13:30,629 --> 00:13:27,920 and of course dr ting has been doing 412 00:13:33,509 --> 00:13:30,639 research on the space station since 2011 413 00:13:35,670 --> 00:13:33,519 on the alpha magnetic spectrometer it's 414 00:13:38,710 --> 00:13:35,680 essentially a giant magnet and particle 415 00:13:40,550 --> 00:13:38,720 detector and it's measuring galactic 416 00:13:42,790 --> 00:13:40,560 cosmic rays those are radioactive 417 00:13:44,790 --> 00:13:42,800 particles essentially that have come all 418 00:13:46,470 --> 00:13:44,800 the way back from the big bang and they 419 00:13:49,269 --> 00:13:46,480 arrive and they're registered on this 420 00:13:50,949 --> 00:13:49,279 detector he can measure the energy the 421 00:13:52,389 --> 00:13:50,959 mass of the particle in the direction 422 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:52,399 it's coming from 423 00:13:57,350 --> 00:13:54,959 so far they've collected over 50 billion 424 00:13:59,590 --> 00:13:57,360 observations of galactic cosmic rays 425 00:14:00,710 --> 00:13:59,600 each one of them a data point with that 426 00:14:03,030 --> 00:14:00,720 information 427 00:14:05,110 --> 00:14:03,040 and what that's allowing is that's 428 00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:05,120 allowing more and more data to 429 00:14:09,750 --> 00:14:07,600 accumulate on the rare particles 430 00:14:12,949 --> 00:14:09,760 so what he presented last week in 431 00:14:15,590 --> 00:14:12,959 chicago was the first 432 00:14:17,509 --> 00:14:15,600 data he's ever shared in the higher 433 00:14:19,590 --> 00:14:17,519 energy range than has ever been measured 434 00:14:22,230 --> 00:14:19,600 by any other instruments in the past he 435 00:14:25,110 --> 00:14:22,240 had had presented data up to 436 00:14:28,069 --> 00:14:25,120 300 giga electron volts and last week he 437 00:14:29,670 --> 00:14:28,079 showed us data points up to 500 giga 438 00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:29,680 electron volts and so what's the 439 00:14:33,990 --> 00:14:31,760 significance when we start getting into 440 00:14:37,030 --> 00:14:34,000 these higher energy levels so these 441 00:14:39,350 --> 00:14:37,040 higher energy levels are less common 442 00:14:41,350 --> 00:14:39,360 and so it takes longer to know how 443 00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:41,360 accurate that estimate of its energy 444 00:14:46,069 --> 00:14:43,680 would be and so forth the other thing 445 00:14:48,470 --> 00:14:46,079 about them is those are the kinds of 446 00:14:49,670 --> 00:14:48,480 particles that you would expect if dark 447 00:14:51,110 --> 00:14:49,680 matter 448 00:14:54,069 --> 00:14:51,120 is interacting 449 00:14:56,470 --> 00:14:54,079 with itself in annihilating itself so so 450 00:14:58,069 --> 00:14:56,480 if you have two units of dark matter and 451 00:15:00,069 --> 00:14:58,079 they interact they'll annihilate each 452 00:15:02,470 --> 00:15:00,079 other and produce a positron and 453 00:15:04,949 --> 00:15:02,480 positrons are the particle that dr ting 454 00:15:07,350 --> 00:15:04,959 was reporting on last week so if you see 455 00:15:09,189 --> 00:15:07,360 a lot of high energy positrons if you 456 00:15:11,670 --> 00:15:09,199 see too many of them then that might 457 00:15:13,829 --> 00:15:11,680 indicate a normal kind of source like 458 00:15:16,310 --> 00:15:13,839 pulsar or something like that and if you 459 00:15:18,310 --> 00:15:16,320 see a medium amount that would suggest 460 00:15:19,910 --> 00:15:18,320 dark matter annihilation and if you see 461 00:15:21,670 --> 00:15:19,920 very very few then that would say our 462 00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:21,680 theory about dark matter is completely 463 00:15:27,590 --> 00:15:25,120 bogus um and so the data point that he 464 00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:27,600 showed last week was actually in between 465 00:15:33,110 --> 00:15:29,759 those two cases with a pretty big error 466 00:15:34,710 --> 00:15:33,120 bar so so it was almost a teaser rather 467 00:15:36,150 --> 00:15:34,720 you know it's not a result you just run 468 00:15:38,069 --> 00:15:36,160 to publish because it shows that he 469 00:15:38,949 --> 00:15:38,079 really needs to collect some additional 470 00:15:41,430 --> 00:15:38,959 data 471 00:15:43,509 --> 00:15:41,440 but it what's so exciting is to see that 472 00:15:45,829 --> 00:15:43,519 that energy 500 giga electron volts 473 00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:45,839 never observed by humankind before and 474 00:15:50,710 --> 00:15:48,000 that was the first presentation of it so 475 00:15:52,069 --> 00:15:50,720 50 billion readings wasn't enough 476 00:15:54,389 --> 00:15:52,079 how many more is he expecting probably 477 00:15:56,069 --> 00:15:54,399 needs 20 billion more at least